Board Thread:Pixel Gun Updates Board/@comment-26923519-20160825042711/@comment-26923519-20160826164707

Justfreezer wrote: JustLeafy wrote: Nevertheless, I would love to see the old PG3D come back. Therefore, it's either impossible or just extremely difficult, especially if RiliSoft disagrees on bringing back the old PG3D regardless how many complaints about PG3D there were. PG3D's dev team don't play the game and do not care about the feedback, so they can't balance their game. Seriously, homing missile and high damage ? How is it even close to be balanced ? Hackers everywhere and the support don't ban them. How is it fair ? Why would we spend money in this game ? Supporting incompetent/lazy devs ?

PGW's dev team  (Big shoutout to Sitka, Aldo, Tsu, Arkat, Glefa and the others !) was always here among the community and used to listen our complaints. Even if some decisions weren't the best and disturbed the balance, it wasn't gamebreaker. Tiger claw was annoying as heck,Cryptonic bow and Lucky strike were able to one shot without headshot, but the users weren't invincible like these hackers in PG3D and were able to be countered quite easily with the correct set up (unless the users were REALLY, REALLY good at the game). People think the amount of reward increased was because the community was complaining ? Nope, the dev team knew that the game will shut down soon and it was the only way to keep players and maybe a chance to keep the game up.

So basically, here is Rilisoft's boss POV:

-Hacked game with incompetent dev team ? Successful with good potential.

-Legit fun game with a good dev team ? No potential. Shut down.

Yes, the mobile market is bigger than the PC's one, but games on mobile doesn't last long, PG3D and some other games by Gameloft making the exeptions. But the PC's market is also important, else games like CS go, TF2, LoL, Dota (I don't play any of these games, just stating the fact) wouldn't have beenthat popular. I also want to remind that PGW was a beta and not officially release, so yeah it wasn't that popular. But when you develop a game, you expect spending money for it. The popularity comes with the time and the upgrades given to the game.

PG3D used to be a small blocky FPS on the mobile market. It became more popular with the time to the point it received a copyright strike from the lovely Mojang compagny. It came back with few tweaks and pursued it's way.

Why not PGW ? The game welcomed a huge amount of players before the shutdown. It was popular in Vietnam because of some youtubers. I'm sure it was able to be as popular as PG3D with the time, maybe less because of the market's size but still. For the first part, I do agree with ya, PG3D's balance is completely unacceptable, except in certain servers containing low level players. Even a certain amount of the LOWEST LEVEL matches, contain people who already bought guns, whether RiliSoft was quite generous for the first multiplayer winand after, I am still, quite disappointed because even 12 coins or easy coin earning, still get modders, it is mostly because of the gems. Without gems, there wouldn't that many modders. Gems may be annoying, but, in mobile, it is easier gaining money more than in PC. However, due to the vareity amount of hacks and possible scams, this lowers the amount of fun of the balance and makes RiliSoft earn less money.

I would shoutout the PGW admins too, because they were basically the bright side of RiliSoft in my opinion. At least they did listen to our complaints, like banning players who misbehave the chat or just violates the law by making "inappropriate" skins. They also fixed a vast amount of bugs, and other players' complaints of bugs. Compared to PG3D, the balance was at least 50 to 75% better in my opinion, if you exclude Tiger Claws, Lucky Strike and a few other OP weapons, of course. In the old PGW, once, Aldo (when he was the most active admin) DID CARE about the hackers, because he banned 100+ hackers at once, and installed an anti-cheat engine, which makes the game extremely difficult to hack. You're right about the players in PGW, they're basically not hackers, nor even modders, they could've just bought coins and used OP weapons only. About PGW being shut down, even before the Total PGW Makeover, the game would've randomly been shut down, even before that?

For RiliSoft's boss POV, I wish it was the opposite, I really wish...

Yes, mobile game markets are basically bigger than the PC markets, I just don't know how PG3D is still alive. I don't know, maybe 11.0.0 update will be the last update for the game? Who knows... You also forgot to mention Overwatch because it is really popular and it is in PC. I already know PGW was in beta, but to me, I'm not sure if a game, during the open beta testing phase, would normally end with 1M+ registered accounts.

I already knew that PG3D was once temporarily taken down by Mojang, but for some reason, they copied a lot of weapons from Overwatch and TF2, and I wonder how they haven't received at least a minor copyright strike. In fact, RiliSoft is potentionally going to have a copyright strike, but not for sure, because in the 11.0.0 update, they revealed a new weapon called "BAD DOCTOR" and I'm pretty sure I've experienced a couple FB comments saying that it is copied from a game.

Yeah, PGW was a much better game in my opinion, it wasn't really that popular, but it got a great uphill of registered accounts ever since BH Gaming made a video about PGW. If PGW was still up until this day, it would've had about 2M registered accounts since more and more Vietnamese players wanted to play the game, and not just them, but people in the YT comments saying "I can't download PGW because it said "Oops! The page you requested was not found!" in ExxotikGaming's tutorial on how to download PGW.

To summarize, PGW was a fun game, and deserves a resurrection, for the sake of us, and for the sake of the brighter side of PG.